Comments on: Guantánamo: America’s Race to the Bottom http://progressiveworldreview.com/2008/05/04/guantanamo-americas-race-to-the-bottom/ Providing rational discussion on today's issues Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:03:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Hobbes http://progressiveworldreview.com/2008/05/04/guantanamo-americas-race-to-the-bottom/#comment-107 Hobbes Fri, 23 May 2008 08:11:41 +0000 http://progressiveworldreview.com/?p=88#comment-107 The courts in Zimbabwe are in a difficult position. Most of the judges were appointed prior to the current regime, and Mugabe has not been able to control their actions as effectively as he controls the police and military. The supreme court has ruled against president Mugabe in several high profile cases. While the Zimbabwean court system is by no means perfect, it seems to have been the least corrupt branch of their government, though that may be changing as more and more judges are intimidated into resignation or early retirement.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('107','Hobbes'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('107','Hobbes','The courts in Zimbabwe are in a difficult position. Most of the judges were appointed prior to the current regime, and Mugabe has not been able to control their actions as effectively as he controls the police and military. The supreme court has ruled against president Mugabe in several high profile cases. While the Zimbabwean court system is by no means perfect, it seems to have been the least corrupt branch of their government, though that may be changing as more and more judges are intimidated into resignation or early retirement.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The courts in Zimbabwe are in a difficult position. Most of the judges were appointed prior to the current regime, and Mugabe has not been able to control their actions as effectively as he controls the police and military. The supreme court has ruled against president Mugabe in several high profile cases. While the Zimbabwean court system is by no means perfect, it seems to have been the least corrupt branch of their government, though that may be changing as more and more judges are intimidated into resignation or early retirement.
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]]> By: Paul Wilden http://progressiveworldreview.com/2008/05/04/guantanamo-americas-race-to-the-bottom/#comment-58 Paul Wilden Mon, 05 May 2008 16:34:21 +0000 http://progressiveworldreview.com/?p=88#comment-58 <em>So again I wonder what you like about our great country?</em> This is precisely what I meant when I said "It’s an unfortunate fact that many in this country consider patriotism to be nothing more than believing their country to be superior to all others for no other reason than they were born in it." America is simply a piece of land inhabited by a group of people. Whether or not this country achieves anything resembling greatness depends <em>entirely</em> on what these inhabitants do. What do I like about this country? We have a system of government that is far superior to most anything that came before it. But if we as a people don't exercise our civic duties then what we will end up with is just what we have now, a country run by corporations, invading sovereign countries based on lies and torturing innocent people. We have a declining middle class where we have to work twice as hard to keep our heads above water and where hard working people are losing their homes. The whole point of my article was that if you want the phrase "great country" to <em>actually</em> mean something, then <em>we</em> have to <em>act</em> like a great people and running a prison like Guantánamo is about as far from greatness as you can get.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58','Paul Wilden'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58','Paul Wilden','<em>So again I wonder what you like about our great country?<\/em>\r\n\r\nThis is precisely what I meant when I said \"It’s an unfortunate fact that many in this country consider patriotism to be nothing more than believing their country to be superior to all others for no other reason than they were born in it.\"\r\n\r\nAmerica is simply a piece of land inhabited by a group of people. Whether or not this country achieves anything resembling greatness depends <em>entirely<\/em> on what these inhabitants do.\r\n\r\nWhat do I like about this country? We have a system of government that is far superior to most anything that came before it. But if we as a people don\'t exercise our civic duties then what we will end up with is just what we have now, a country run by corporations, invading sovereign countries based on lies and torturing innocent people. We have a declining middle class where we have to work twice as hard to keep our heads above water and where hard working people are losing their homes.\r\n\r\nThe whole point of my article was that if you want the phrase \"great country\" to <em>actually<\/em> mean something, then <em>we<\/em> have to <em>act<\/em> like a great people and running a prison like Guantánamo is about as far from greatness as you can get.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> So again I wonder what you like about our great country?

This is precisely what I meant when I said “It’s an unfortunate fact that many in this country consider patriotism to be nothing more than believing their country to be superior to all others for no other reason than they were born in it.”

America is simply a piece of land inhabited by a group of people. Whether or not this country achieves anything resembling greatness depends entirely on what these inhabitants do.

What do I like about this country? We have a system of government that is far superior to most anything that came before it. But if we as a people don’t exercise our civic duties then what we will end up with is just what we have now, a country run by corporations, invading sovereign countries based on lies and torturing innocent people. We have a declining middle class where we have to work twice as hard to keep our heads above water and where hard working people are losing their homes.

The whole point of my article was that if you want the phrase “great country” to actually mean something, then we have to act like a great people and running a prison like Guantánamo is about as far from greatness as you can get.

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]]> By: Political Disgust http://progressiveworldreview.com/2008/05/04/guantanamo-americas-race-to-the-bottom/#comment-57 Political Disgust Mon, 05 May 2008 14:57:21 +0000 http://progressiveworldreview.com/?p=88#comment-57 I hate to ask this, but what do you like about America? Because for all the supposed shortcomings, I would not want to be ANYWHERE else. So again I wonder what you like about our great country? --- Political Disgust<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('57','Political Disgust'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('57','Political Disgust','I hate to ask this, but what do you like about America? Because for all the supposed shortcomings, I would not want to be ANYWHERE else. \r\nSo again I wonder what you like about our great country?\r\n\r\n---\r\nPolitical Disgust'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I hate to ask this, but what do you like about America? Because for all the supposed shortcomings, I would not want to be ANYWHERE else.
So again I wonder what you like about our great country?

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